The owner Jim, could have cared less about us or the dogs and made it seem like he was doing us a favor. I asked to see the Sire and Dame and he rolled his eyes like I was asking the world of him. We put a deposit down on a puppy and looked at the pictures of the Sire and Dame, first of all the pictures are probably years old. when we met them both dogs looked underweight and not taken care of. The puppies had no socialization and the owners of the kennels had no idea what socialization really is. their idea of raising a pup is to stick it in a kennel and wait 7 weeks to sell it. Also when Jim brought the Sire and Dame to meet us they both had prong collars on and he basically drug them both in and out of the greeting area by the leash. I feel bad for any animal in their care and would NEVER support this so called breeder.